ICONS (Super Early) - Which Of These Do You Like Best?

TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
edited October 2015 in Questions for YOU
We're starting to produce ultra-super-ridiculously-early builds on our iPhones-- both for the Combat Engine and for the visuals. Experiments abound!

Well, you can't put an app-- even a not-even-close-to-being-done one-- on your phone without an app icon, so out of these quick ones, which do you like best and why?





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  • DarggieDarggie Posts: 125 Adventurer
    Should have made a Poll. :P 

    I like the first one, the P with the blue background. 

    My reasoning is, the game is Paragons - so a Large P easily identifies the game.

    The game isn't all about big beefy warrior looking characters, there will be a myriad of classes, so I don't like the second one, because it seems biased. Most of that same logic applied to the third one as well. 
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  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    ...soooo that means you don't like the 4th one i just added, @Darggie?
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  • FinjinimoFinjinimo Posts: 229 Hero
    #4 shows it's a fighting game, crossing swords and whatnot.

    But there is something simple, elegant, dignified maybe?, about the big ol' P.

    Wasn't midnight star a big M?
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  • DarggieDarggie Posts: 125 Adventurer
    edited October 2015
    TheWizard said:
    ...soooo that means you don't like the 4th one i just added, @Darggie?
    No, I actually do like the 4th one. Because the picture of a face, or a helm, doesn't actually convey a whole lot.

    I'll break down my opinions for each and why I like/dislike each to a greater degree,

    This is a very Basic Icon. It doesn't give the wrong impression about the game, there is nothing sneaking or enigmatic about it. The P is the first letter of the game, so it clearly conveys it's purpose if you've read the name of the game.

    There is no hints on the icon that the game might be a different type of game. You don't look at the huge P and think, mystery game.



    I don't like this one as much, because it's a Face. A face doesn't give any focus or emphasis on the game or what type of game it is at all.  You either know from experience what the icon means, or you don't. 
    If someone says hey, load Paragons and check it out when handing you their phone. This Icon won't jump out at them over other icons as being the correct one, without the game being labeled as well. 

    Which is different from the P, because if you're looking, don't see an icon named Paragon, you might still figure, oh, big P. Probably what they are talking about.

    Edit: Now if the face, is a common face you see in the game. Like a guide, or someone you talk to frequently. It's not as bad. Because those who already play and experience the game, understand the meaning behind the icon to a much greater degree. But those who has never played it, still get no meaning from the icon, so it is, in my opinion the least likely icon to attract new players.



    I feel like this one a little bit more but, it could mean anything. True, it does conveys a medieval-ish/gladiatorial like thought upon seeing it. As well as the Helm might convey leadership, where you command people or give orders. Which falls in line with your camp system from what I have read. 

    But the game is more then that.TheWizard said:

    This one is my second favorite, right behind the P.  

    The thoughts are similar to one above, but the added swords adds a bit of knowledge that the Helm might not mean leading, or not "just" leading. It clearly portrays combat and action.

    If someone told me to guess which Icon on their phone for the game Paragon, out of a decent sized list. The large P would stand out first. Then if, as most people do, and someone had given me a brief introduction to what the game is, this one would stand out second.
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  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Finjinimo said:
    Wasn't midnight star a big M?

     
    Yes indeed, though we changed it to a Renfield character with the M in a smaller part of the real estate. 

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  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Good perspective, thanks @Darggie. And good point in your edit about a face you see regularly. We haven't figured out what folks you'll encounter regularly yet, so that's good thinking. I imagine we'll be posting many of these as we work through the iconography.

    Other thoughts? 
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  • SkwidSkwid Posts: 29 Mendicant
    @Darggie statement is perfect. I like the P and the 4th one.
  • drglorydrglory Posts: 29 Adventurer
    I think it would look good with a house banner as the backdrop, rather than the gold border.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    I'm not so sure we can get away with P folks...



    But @drglory, you're thinking some color and texture in the background a la a House banner?  
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  • drglorydrglory Posts: 29 Adventurer
    Exactly Wizzy! You have some super high-Rez screens to work with now days.

    Yeah, you should totally go with a white icon and a blue P. The familiarity will help people find your game!
  • FinjinimoFinjinimo Posts: 229 Hero
    Just double it whizz-fizz. PP is obviously double the fun of Pandora... eh eh?

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  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Yes exactly, Finji. Path of the Paragons!
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  • EmyrEmyr Posts: 12 Mendicant
    Just to re-iterate the simple P would be my preferred option, but something along those lines would be great.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Gotcha-- give me some perspective on reasoning, though, @Emyr. What appeals most about that for you?
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  • FinjinimoFinjinimo Posts: 229 Hero
    PP! PP! PP!

    (I just want to hear wiz say pee pee).

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  • EmyrEmyr Posts: 12 Mendicant
    Same as already mentioned really, at this stage and without knowing too much about the game play as such. Something simple that refers you to the name of the game would be good.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Good stuff. There will be much more where this is concerned. How about other ideas? What else, given what you know about Paragons so far, would you put into this tiniest of very-important artwork (the icon)?
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  • helpicantflyhelpicantfly Posts: 111 Adventurer
    @TheWizard  maybe a house with the p in ?
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  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Yes, perhaps. What about a more iconic approach? Something that's not a P but stands for Paragons?
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  • FinjinimoFinjinimo Posts: 229 Hero
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6025810/uploads/editor/f3/4ceghhyihg4h.jpg

    I like this artwork because it feels more grownup than most mobile games I see. It reminds me of old fantasy/sci fi book covers. Could your icon not take a little slice of that? Even if it ends up being a little bit abstract.

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  • MythBringerMythBringer Posts: 1 Mendicant
    Honestly, I don't like any of them. The P reminds me of Pandora (already mentioned) and the rest just remind me of every other battle game out there. Now, what initially brought me to this point was, quite simply, the name. Paragons. It rings grand. Give me an icon that says Paragons, (like the one for this board), and I'm in.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    I hear that. I'm prepping the 1st game development update, and you'll see some of what we're exploring on the art direction side. And @MythBringer, I appreciate that sentiment-- we obviously agree, so we're doing many explorations.

    In fact, we're using that image that @Finjinimo mentioned for the loading screen as we speak (obviously nothing final, and you may notice we're playing with fonts now):




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  • BeatingHeartsBeatingHearts Posts: 1 Mendicant
    First one the P :)
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Now, this is interesting-- some folks liking the iconic P and others with the imagery. What is it about the P that you like and what other imagery might make sense (I liked the banner idea as well...)?
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  • helpicantflyhelpicantfly Posts: 111 Adventurer
    @thewizard ;
    i kind of like the whole picture.(with the other stranger in(on board pics)
     do you need the word paragons on it?
     i'm not so sure.
     after all if you gone to the trouble of putting it on device you going to know a good banner picture do the same job .
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  • FinjinimoFinjinimo Posts: 229 Hero
    edited October 2015
    The P is simple, elegant and not cartoonish. It doesn't scream 'casual' or 'kids game'. I was looking at the top games on my phone last night, none of them look like a grownup game. They all look casual and cutesy.

    I wanna play a grown up game, wizzy! WANT WANT WANT! NOW NOW NOW!

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  • KjelfalconerKjelfalconer Posts: 99 Adventurer
    Finji wanna bikkit?

    /hopes someone gets that reference
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  • FinjinimoFinjinimo Posts: 229 Hero
    Finji wanna bikkit?

    /hopes someone gets that reference
    Thief of Time, yo!
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  • KjelfalconerKjelfalconer Posts: 99 Adventurer
    @Finjinimo ;

    YES, And for that, you get all the internet bikkits.
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  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Haha understood, @Finjinimo, but wait-- define "grown up," because I've been avoiding my definition of it all my life...
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