What's most important in a RPG?

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  • SmarmyGrinSmarmyGrin Posts: 5 Mendicant
    Community Events
    Being able to look unique. Whether through special event items or rare drops from elite monsters. 
    Kingkobbler
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    Haha, I wish you could. I would. But I'm interested in what you'll choose when you have to...
    TheWizard
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  • KingkobblerKingkobbler Posts: 19 Mendicant
    Character Development
    Character development, thru gear, stats, items, and skills is one of the most important things to me, because the character is my personal experience thru the game

  • XeruXeru Posts: 93 Adventurer
    Character Development
    On the Character development and uniqueness note

    Before I ask, do all weapon/gear look the same or does equipping modify your appearance?

    if it does, then looking 'unique' can be accomplished via forge and alchemy by creating special color and design items that when forged into an item could, for example, invert it's colors, change a blade to be blue or, create a tiger stripe pattern amidst the equipment.


    On another note for development, @TheWizard , what do you think of the idea of quests that let players create a skill, limited to one but, giving a player a signature skill based on amount of times quest X is completed = more points to invest in said skill. And when a skill is made and named, the name can be Unique locked so others won't have it.

    Uniqueness in development gives a fresh flavor to the game and character play :)
    Kroil
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    As we begin, @xeru, the gear will be the primary way you customize your appearance. There will be lots of loot and lots of ways to look interesting. Special alterations or transmog is stuff we're planning for, but probably won't be featured right away. Part of what we're experimenting with is how much information you get about your opponent simply by seeing what he/she is loaded out with.

    On your second point, I like that idea. We're still building out the 3 Class system (eventually 6) with 3 specialities per Class that lets you make a gazillion builds, so signature skills isn't in there yet, but I like the way you think!

    I agree, too, with finding as many ways as we can to give players the ability to name things and make them their own (thus this thread). Keep it coming!
    TheWizard
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  • KingkobblerKingkobbler Posts: 19 Mendicant
    Character Development
    Gota say, I LOVE the idea of visually seeing what your opponent has equipped and being able to adjust your strategy from that, or run away screaming lol, I'm already uber excited for the combat just from the little gif I saw, kinda drooling alittle lol
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    Then I shall make some more GIFS just for you as we work on this next build. Hoping you enjoy what we do with this as it comes online:


    TheWizard
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    Skwid
  • TyraelTyrael Posts: 7 Mendicant
    Story/Lore
    lore/background number1 but with good character development so can control your destiny with non-lineer playground.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    Can I vote for all of them ?;/
    Haha, I would. But alas, this is just for perspective. We'll have all of it, though not all in the ways you might expect.

    Given the # of responses for story/lore, I'll be outlining the system for narrative pretty soon to get your thoughts on it. In a nutshell, the story will be told over Seasons, with player activity and performance determining things like influence (over the world), triggers of events (like the Chaotic Uprising) and available Quests (because you all went and successfully achieved X, Y or Z). I'm pretty excited about it...
    TheWizard
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  • DarggieDarggie Posts: 125 Adventurer
    Character Development
    TheWizard said:
    Can I vote for all of them ?;/
    Haha, I would. But alas, this is just for perspective. We'll have all of it, though not all in the ways you might expect.

    Given the # of responses for story/lore, I'll be outlining the system for narrative pretty soon to get your thoughts on it. In a nutshell, the story will be told over Seasons, with player activity and performance determining things like influence (over the world), triggers of events (like the Chaotic Uprising) and available Quests (because you all went and successfully achieved X, Y or Z). I'm pretty excited about it...
    That's awesome, so @TheWizard there will be things to accomplish that will require multiple members of the community to do together? Like world event kind of things? That as me more pumped then anything to hear details about.
    They call me the Crier. No, I don't cry a lot. I deliver news you uncouth barbarian.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    Yes, that's right-- the combat system is designed as a 1-on-1, as you've seen, but there will be Boss Battles and World Events where you band together and take shots at something you can't possibly beat on your own. In addition, you have the Houses systems, which will have interesting options for cooperative accomplishing of tasks.
    TheWizard
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  • DrakytheDrakythe Posts: 157 mod
    PvE Combat
    Zeabeon said:
    Development of your character is very important in a rpg. I don't like it when every wizard is built the same way, because someone figured out the perfect way. I like it when there's no perfect characters. Everyone is very different and play very different ways. Jack of all trades and experts of a certain skill.

    I know its been a while but I've been playing D3 with my wife recently and wanted to chime in on this. The more I've played and read up on D3 (specifically PC D3) the more I appreciate that though all characters of the same class get the same abilities/runes/etc they can be easily customized via rapidly changing out skills to compliment current gear. In addition Blizzard keeps introducing new ways to fine tune Characters (Kanai's Cube, in particular). I love the idea of there being no 'perfect build' but if the game is static that won't be possible, so I think for character development to mean anything you guys (the devs) will have to commit to allowing some pretty rapid changes and everything having a weakness (rock/paper/scissors/lizard/spock?)

    While the above makes it seem like characters will all end up having the same look/feel eventually, I think character development could still be made via story/unique choices that let us tell our own story, and that is important, I think. Let us make the character's our own, through skill/gear selection as well as story moments.
    Kroil
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    Ah yes, agree, Drak. One of the things we're going after is the whole many-builds-achieve victory angle, so you'll have to keep us honest there. 

    Right now (these are rough numbers), the total number of Talent Points you can allocate to your character is 50. And you have about 130 choices per Class-- so you can't possibly choose everything and max it. On top of that, we do in fact have a strength weakness system in the form of Martial/Magic/Mystic abilities and damage. And gear plus resistances will help out with that.

    And then, there's visuals...
    TheWizard
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  • DrakytheDrakythe Posts: 157 mod
    PvE Combat
    Sounds great, Wiz. I'm looking forward to seeing what the classes and choices look like :D.

    I do have one question, have you guys looked at the skills to see if any of them scream "well duh I'm gonna take that one" and if so, have you thought about why that is a skill and if it could be integrated somewhere else, since everyone is gonna take it?

    I realized while switching skills out in D3 that pretty much all of the skills are viable (up to a certain difficulty level, it seems) and mainly serve to help a player taylor their build to their play style, instead of "You must take Active skills X and Y, with passive Z in order to have a build worth a crap"
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    Yes, that's one we're staying on top of. And indeed, a few have risen to the top already and we're asking ourselves that very question. Between actives and passives and gear, there are emerging builds that "work" but that's all part of the process. We've failed if there aren't many viable builds, and guess who's gonna tell me that?
    TheWizard
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  • KroilKroil Posts: 3 Mendicant
    Really like the idea xeru has about being able to have a signature skill 
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    Indeed-- @xeru has had a host of good ideas as we've gotten started. In the next few dev updates, we'll reveal some systems that I hope you will collaborate with us on...
    TheWizard
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  • ZeabeonZeabeon Posts: 2 Mendicant
    Character Development
    I like the new ideas. I've always been a fan of table top d&d. Every game you meet someone that had a different but effective way to complete a quest. Free range of background stories and skills. 

    SkwidTheWizard
  • SarusSarus Posts: 3 Mendicant
    Character Development
    Have to say character development. Everything else comes secondary to having the most epic character.
    TheWizard
  • MonkericMonkeric Posts: 2 Mendicant
    Character Development
    Interesting that character development was the majority vote. Im thinking that's because if everything else is implemented well, than you don't notice them as much and character development flows naturally.

    Actions should have consequences and that in turn spurs growth. Grinding mobs to level up (PvE) what impact does this have on the environment? That's a pretty big question and feels like a daunting system to code but —and I say this having no coding experience — maybe it could be something as simple as kill x amount of Mob 1,trigger more spawning of Mob 7 because Mob 1 was keeping Mob 7's population down. Or kill x amount of Mob 9 and this triggers a quest where a village is now being attacked by what's left of Mob 9 and you have to defend the village (think rogue elephants rampaging villages in India due to poaching and creating angry bulls).
  • TheWizardTheWizard Posts: 738 Wizard
    Character Development
    Actually, @Monkeric, you're hitting on some of the things we're experimenting with in PVE-- you will definitely be able to grind, but the Quests you choose to take (which will involve dueling NPCs for the most part in this game), the CYOA choices you make (choose your own adventure) and how you do in your House will move things like Motivations and Factions around and we hope to have a satisfying system where you feel like you're having an affect on the game world.
    TheWizard
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  • Khalif18Khalif18 Posts: 1 Mendicant
    Character Development
    Being able to look unique. Whether through special event items or rare drops from elite monsters. 
    Not having ads pop up as soon as you open the app nor the micro transactions 
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